Marty Scurll on His Character, CM Punk and Brock Lesnar

Marty Scurll is undoubtedly one of the most popular independent wrestlers in the world right now and over the past couple of years. Having recently joined Bullet Club, Scurll is on top of the world right now.

Marty Scurll was interviewed on the Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast where he spoke about a number of topics, including his character, wanting to bring CM Punk out of retirement and Brock Lesnar.

Scurll first spoke about his previous gimmick. He worked under the gimmick ‘Party’ Marty for years, before transforming naturally into ‘The Villain,’ which is the gimmick he continues to use to this day. He explains that looking back on it, being ‘Party’ Marty was perfect as all good villains start off as good people, as he did being a babyface.

“What I’d like to suggest now is my previous character, a fun-loving, good guy, ‘Party’ Marty, was actually the whole plan all along because all good villains start off as a nice person, something happens, and they turn into that evil villain, so I’m actually a genius. My character is like a long thing, like 12 years.” Scurll explained, “I tried to be a good guy. I tried to be the one everyone loved. They turned their backs on me. Society turned on me. And then, I turned out to be an absolute asshole. Are you surprised? These people made this happen.”

Next, Scurll speaks about how he has evolved his character. He mentions that the creator of ‘The Simpsons,’ Matt Groening once had a quote that he took to heart, that made him think about where his character should be.

“There was a very famous quote, well, I’m not sure how famous it is, but a quote either way from Matt Groening who wrote The Simpsons. And he said that all great characters can be recognized from their silhouette. And I thought, ‘well, that’s an interesting point.’ And I thought, ‘well, okay, I need to get something to mix this up. So yeah, it was a gradual thing. It wasn’t like, ‘this is my character!’ It’s an evolving thing. It still is, even to this day.”

In reference to actually developing a character, Scurll explains that there was a point where he assumed he could just be a good wrestler and be given a character he could work with. Being in the business taught him that he needed a deep character, not just have skills as a wrestler to get noticed.

“I think originally I just assumed I’d be a really good wrestler and then someone would give me a character and I’d be good enough to play it off. Right, right, they’d be like, ‘you’re going to be Mantaur 2,’ and I’m like, ‘yes, I love it!’ I could do that. No. But I think you quickly realize to get by and be successful in wrestling purely based on your in-ring ability is… you have to be really remarkable. Guys like ‘Dynamite Kid’ could do it, but I feel like to be a main event player and a character some people can get invested in, that’s the most thing, I think.”

Despite this, Scurll explains that some talent like Will Ospreay and Zack Sabre, Jr. don’t really need to be as reliant on their characters due to being extremely talented in various aspects of wrestling, but they will have to eventually.

“If you look at the guys who have broke out from Europe, you have Zack [Sabre, Jr.] and you have [Will] Ospreay, who are really, really exceptional in their fields. Zack is the best technical wrestler and Ospreay is the best high flyer, so they don’t have to rely as much on characters, but they will because they are the best in their field, but there will come a point when they’ll have to excel in that character. Wrestling on TV and wrestling on the indies are two different things, so they’ll have to.”

Typically in wrestling, the wrestlers are labelled as a face, heel or a tweener. Many people believe Scurll to be a heel, based on his character and the way he acts in and outside the ring under his wrestling character. However, Scurll explains that he doesn’t follow the norms and isn’t a heel, he is just ‘The Villain.’

“What the hell is a heel? Who said I was a heel? I’m ‘The Villain’, I didn’t say I was [a heel]. I don’t play by these pro wrestling rules of faces and heels. I just don’t. I don’t care about that. You can live by those wrestling rules. I think outside the box. I’m a villain. I’m an antagonist. I do nasty things. If the people want to cheer or boo it, that’s down to them. It’s says more about them than it does about me.”

He then continues this point but in reference to WWE Universal Champion Brock Lesnar, who is set to defend the title against Samoa Joe at WWE ‘Great Balls of Fire.’

“Now Brock Lesnar, is he a heel or a face? He’s Brock Lesnar. I’m ‘The Villain’. I’m not comparing myself to Brock Lesnar, but it’s the same thing. I don’t worry too much about that. I just want to entertain the people and give them something they can enjoy.”

Scurll continued to speak out about wanting CM Punk to come out of retirement for a match against him. He says it would make headlines, which we can confirm it definitely would.

“CM Punk, I’d like to bring CM Punk out of retirement and wrestle him for sure. I don’t know if CM Punk listens to this show, but if he [does]…” Scurll added, “but CM Punk, if you’re watching, come out of retirement. We can cause quite a bother of a wrestling match. What do you say? And that’d be fun, right? Yeah, that’s one for the headlines!”

With H/T to WrestlingInc for the quotes.

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Editor’s Note:

I would love to see Scurll vs. CM Punk! That would make money for sure. I have always been a fan of Scurll so I love to hear about his character and the development of it. I haven’t heard him mention much of this before.

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